Episode 15: What Do We Do with Brand New?
In this episode, Liz leads Will through answering the question of what to do with Brand New since Jesse Lacey was accused by multiple women of sexual misconduct.
An article we didn’t reference but that is saying some of the same things:
Brand New's brand of emo was so relatable because they did what so few emo acts didn't: they grew up. The lyrics turned away from glorified date rape fantasies and towards confronting self-hate. They got married. They settled down. They seemed happy. To some fans, it symbolized that, as hard as it is to grow up with depression, it’s possible to slowly step away from it, or at least control it.
Hanif Abdurraqib’s book, They Can’t Kill Us Until They Kill Us (aka “The Wolf Book”):